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In search of a European identity

Another way forward for the EU?

Following former French Prime Minister [tag]Laurent Fabius[/tag]’ recent sensible suggestions for a multi-tier Europe, over at Cicero’s Songs there’s a report on another proposal, this time from Estonian Prime Minister [tag]Andrus Ansip[/tag] (followed by some musings of Cicero’s own).

Yep, Estonia may be teeny tiny, but if one of the new eastern European member states is pointing out the flaws of a system they’ve only recently joined, you know that Chancellor Merkel’s hopes of a quick revival of the EU constitution are likely to be shattered without too much ado, no matter how hard she tries. By that stage, if more alternatives like those proposed by Fabius and Ansip are thrown into the mix, we might just end up with some decent options for debating EU reform, rather than a breeze block of a constitution dreamed up in committee by out-of-touch politicos that would still have failed to address all of the [tag]EU[/tag]’s needs, even if it hadn’t been rejected.

Update: Over at BlogEuropa, an interesting report on the current constitutional confusion, and the various moves afoot to come to a resolution.


  1. What is impressive about people like Ansip is not what they say which, to go by what Cicero says, is entirely unremarkable, but how they say it, and the way they engage with audiences, both domestic and foreign, over the question. Constructively. Not dogmatically. This is totally different to the way all our politicians deal with Europe.

  2. Mmm, appart from the fact that Fabius does not have any influence at all, seriously, who is going to listen to him?

  3. Bondwoman – yep, looks like he's got a different style, that chap, which is sorely needed. I've very nearly got put off the entire EU thing by the sheer arrogance of a lot of the people who are pushing for reform, even when what they're saying is entirely sensible.

    Thomas – I doubt anyone will, but still… At least someone with top-end political experience is proposing alternatives to the tedious "let's just revive the constitution and hope nobody notices" approach that seems to have been the standard so far. And you never know, if Royal's campaign continues to go tits-up (as it seems to be a bit at the moment), the Socialists may start paying attention to him a bit more. At a push…

  4. If people stoped over selling the constitution so much there is always the chance that they will realise that it is just a document, it would not realy change that much, just address some of the problems that the EU has and tell people where they stand. Its the political equivilent of the Davinchi code, some people refuse it out of hand because they dont like the hype nonesence around it, but if they read it they would realise that it has been blown all out of proportion… maby a bad analogy but i stand by the point.

  5. @ Nosemonkey,

    Yes Fabius has some experience but he is burnt in the PS as he is seen as a too devisive personality: he is seen as a traitor by the centrists socialists for having campaining for the "no" even the official line was the "yes" and the left of the party despises him coz he belongs to the "gauche caviar" (champagne left?). Hence why he got trashed during the PS primaries. The only concession by Sego was to give two followers of both Fabius and DSK a survey on taxation (good luck for them to work together.) Anyway, his proposal on the future of the EU got almost totally unoticed in the French press (I actually learned it here) contrary to the Brussels speech of Sarkozy.

    Anyway, things might change for the PS quickly as the smear campaign is dead on with the socialists are today nothing less than accusing Sarkozy to spy them after an article in today's Cannard Enchaine. I don't know if you are francophone, but if yes, here is the link for the story:,1-0@2-823448,…