{"id":217,"date":"2004-11-16T10:44:47","date_gmt":"2004-11-16T10:44:47","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.jcm.org.uk\/blog\/2004\/11\/16\/england-also-to-ban-smoking-in-pubs\/"},"modified":"2004-11-16T10:44:47","modified_gmt":"2004-11-16T10:44:47","slug":"england-also-to-ban-smoking-in-pubs","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/jcm.org.uk\/blog\/2004\/11\/england-also-to-ban-smoking-in-pubs\/","title":{"rendered":"England also to ban smoking in pubs"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>I think I speak for all of us at Europhobia when I say <a href=\"http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/1\/hi\/health\/4014597.stm\">&#8220;the bastards!&#8221;<\/a> We&#8217;ve already covered how <a href=\"http:\/\/europhobia.blogspot.com\/2004\/11\/cough-cough-what.html\">smoking bans in public spaces don&#8217;t actually help people to quit smoking<\/a>, and everything Rhona was saying about Scotland pretty much applies to the proposed English ban as well.<\/p>\n<p>The fact that the English ban is in restaurants and &#8220;pubs that serve food&#8221; (whatever that might mean) makes this even more nonsensical. It smacks decidedly of a vote-winning ploy, aimed at the self-righteous, largely middle-class non-smoking lobby who want to be able to have a nice glass of chianti in a gastropub (probably along with their goujons of plaice in a light dill sauce with a side of sauteed asparagus and curly fries) without coughing on someone else&#8217;s smoke.<\/p>\n<p>The people who want to ban smoking in pubs are precisely the people who don&#8217;t understand what pubs are all about. It&#8217;s like me going into a vegetarian restaurant and getting annoyed that I can&#8217;t have a nice juicy steak.<\/p>\n<p>But hey &#8211; smokers can still go to pubs that don&#8217;t serve food! So that&#8217;s all right then. Pubs without food are &#8211; these days &#8211; usually in working-class areas. So the poor can still smoke themselves to death, as long as they don&#8217;t do it where Tristram and Priscilla can be upset by their fumes and coughing.<\/p>\n<p>Smoking has been a central part of pub culture for centuries &#8211; the majority of regular pub-goers either smoke themselves, or don&#8217;t mind &#8211; and non-smokers have the ability to go elsewhere if they don&#8217;t like it. It&#8217;s called market choice.<\/p>\n<p>So why can&#8217;t this sort of decision be left to the landlords? The Wetherspoons chain (one of the largest in the UK, with pubs in most towns) are already introducing chain-wide smoking bans. This alone will give most towns at least one smoke-free pub. If the market is calling for more non-smoking drinking dens, more will appear, just as more no smoking areas are appearing in pubs and restaurants throughout the land.<\/p>\n<p>Why legislate to force something on people when the market can dictate? That way everyone&#8217;s happy &#8211; smokers get to smoke, non-smokers get to have pubs where they aren&#8217;t bothered by me lighting up.<\/p>\n<p><b>Update<\/b>: <a href=\"http:\/\/news.bbc.co.uk\/1\/hi\/uk_politics\/4015689.stm\">Oh God&#8230; I appear to be agreeing with the Tories&#8230;<\/a> (Although the proposal by the &#8220;Lib Dem Youth and Students&#8221; to <a href=\"http:\/\/www.ldys.org.uk\/web\/news\/20041110001.html\">introduce &#8220;smoking licenses&#8221;<\/a> for pubs may also be workable&#8230;)<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>I think I speak for all of us at Europhobia when I say &#8220;the bastards!&#8221; We&#8217;ve already covered how smoking bans in public spaces don&#8217;t actually help people to quit smoking, and everything Rhona was saying about Scotland pretty much &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/jcm.org.uk\/blog\/2004\/11\/england-also-to-ban-smoking-in-pubs\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[1],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-217","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/jcm.org.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/217","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/jcm.org.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/jcm.org.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jcm.org.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jcm.org.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=217"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/jcm.org.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/217\/revisions"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/jcm.org.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=217"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jcm.org.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=217"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/jcm.org.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=217"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}